Posts by breakfast of champions

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What Does Keeping The Congregation Clean Mean To The Governing Body?

by frankiespeakin in

now we all know how the governing body hates any defecters from watchtower corporation's control.

listening, obeying, and be spared alive from jehovah's wrath blah blah blah has become their new mantra sung to a liltingly slowly moving indoctrinatingly booring tune taylor made to dull the mind and not sharpen it.. so uncleaness that the congregation need to be kept clean from are things like people who celibrate birthdays, mother's day, christmas, even if you go to another church and participate the congregation needs to be cleaned from your pesents.. no gay couples, no crossdressers, no masterbaiters(they make sky daddy real sad), definately no children bringing wizzard like toys to the kingdom hall to play with(jehovah considers these an afront to his sovereignty and make him sad, striaght dope from the gb who know what jehovah feeling at all times).

ipads and other electronic devices are ok but might bring in some uncleaness especially if they watching videos of hot looking brothers signing on and on about not touching those private spots and getting all horny and stuff because jehovah don't want to be looking down from heaven and see one of his worshippers masterbaiting because he's been deprived of the experience because he's god and he ain't got no wife nor anybody to work his dingaling, he don't even ease nature at all until he has a relevation climax or something repressing all that sexual energy can make you mean i hear.. and no apostate material or looking up web sites critical of the governing body while at the kindon hall meeting facility.. no idols, visible tattoos, child molesters.. person stealing money from the contribution box, they are very unclean and considered a judas of sorts.. .

breakfast of champions

No Idols, visible tattoos, child molesters.

No child molestors that anyone knows of.

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If the big change at the AGM meeting is dropping the literal 144,000...

by slimboyfat in

the best conjecture seems to be that the gb are going to drop the literal 144,000 teaching, especially in view of the december watchtower that pointedly does not mention the 144,000 number.

if they are dropping the literal 144,000 number, but still claim that only a small number are anointed, and can partake, and that only a few are left on earth, then it is fair to ask what has really changed?

they are simply clearing up the embarrassing situation that there were obviously more than 144,000 "anointed" believers from 36 ad until now, and that the number of partakers has been increasing in recent years.

breakfast of champions

Of course, Jackson is not yet 60. . . .he can expect to live another 30-35 years.

And Sanderson is only 48, so he's potentially got another 50 years left in him. . . .

Of course at any moment now the UN will declare war on false religion, the GT gets kicked off, and those bastards get sucked up to heaven.

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Yet More Annual Meeting Speculation. . .

by breakfast of champions in

so, yes, there will be a "new bible" released at this annual meeting.

worst kept secret ever.. however, the new bible will no longer be called the "new world translation".

again, this is pure speculation, but it would kind of make sense since the term "new world" is very mason-y, old-time jw-y, and doesn't appear in the bible anyway.. what they would call it, i couldn't even guess..

breakfast of champions

Will it have a green cover?

Yes. And pyramids and dinosaurs on the endpapers.

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How did Rutherford come to Power?

by Daniel1555 in

in the last wt article it was said that 4 of the 7 directors rebelled against the decision to install rutherford as president in 1916. then it is said that they left in 1917; a cleansing happened indeed.. .

does anyone of you know the details how rutherford came to power?.

if 4 out of 7 are against it, that doesn't seem to me allright.

breakfast of champions

There's a decent summary on Wikipedia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watch_Tower_Society_presidency_dispute_(1917)

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What's in it for them? (GB)

by SyntaxError1974 in

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friends

if the wbts is just another business?

then what do the gb get out of all this?.

tim cook (ceo apple) makes around 378 million a year.. donald trump makes around 60 million a year.. i understand the wbts may have vast property holdings, stocks, bonds, and revenue from donations.. but i can't grasp the incentive for the gb to make this stuff up.

breakfast of champions

Welcome SYNTAXERROR!

This is something I go back and forth with, which probably means there is no simple answer.

As far as what's in it for them, I agree with SMIDDY: they are big fish in a little pond. If they were in "the world" they would be slobs just like us, not CEOs. So I think it's the power, which is just as intoxicating (even moreso) than money.

Also consider that any organization this large takes on a life of it's own- at a point the whole system exists for the sake of existence.

Do they really believe their own BS? I think some do, some don't. A few might be delusional enough to believe all of it, but I'm sure most only believe parts of it- I mean, how else do you come up with new light unless you are dissatisfied with what you've got?

I appreciate your distinction between "informational" and "attitudinal" apostates. Personally, I also wanted the just facts when I was doing my initial research (sites like JWFACTS.com are great for that). The emotional, ranting stuff turned me off too, at first, but I now see it as just people coping differently. Have gotten a little emotional and ranty myself at times.

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Yet More Annual Meeting Speculation. . .

by breakfast of champions in

so, yes, there will be a "new bible" released at this annual meeting.

worst kept secret ever.. however, the new bible will no longer be called the "new world translation".

again, this is pure speculation, but it would kind of make sense since the term "new world" is very mason-y, old-time jw-y, and doesn't appear in the bible anyway.. what they would call it, i couldn't even guess..

breakfast of champions

So, yes, there will be a "new bible" released at this annual meeting. Worst kept secret ever.

However, the new bible will no longer be called the "New World Translation"

Again, this is pure speculation, but it would kind of make sense since the term "New World" is very Mason-y, old-time JW-y, and doesn't appear in the bible anyway.

What they would call it, I couldn't even guess.

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If the big change at the AGM meeting is dropping the literal 144,000...

by slimboyfat in

the best conjecture seems to be that the gb are going to drop the literal 144,000 teaching, especially in view of the december watchtower that pointedly does not mention the 144,000 number.

if they are dropping the literal 144,000 number, but still claim that only a small number are anointed, and can partake, and that only a few are left on earth, then it is fair to ask what has really changed?

they are simply clearing up the embarrassing situation that there were obviously more than 144,000 "anointed" believers from 36 ad until now, and that the number of partakers has been increasing in recent years.

breakfast of champions

Why drop it?

Provides a lot of "hoopla" at very little expense.

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WT Mar 15th 2012 - 144,000 no longer a literal number?

by dozy in

reading idly through this magazine , i read the study article "rejoicing in our hope" which discusses the two "hopes" according to the wtbts ie heaven & earth.. a couple of points were of interest:.

(1) absolutely no mention at all of the 144,000 or rev 14. usually an article like this would be filled with references , but it isn't even mentioned.

it does discuss the "limited number" , but only in contrast with the "no man can number" great crowd.. (2) a much more laid back attitude towards the two hopes.

breakfast of champions

Bumping, as I think this might be the big news at the Annual Mtg.

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For Anyone With the WT CD ROM

by breakfast of champions in

my curiosity is killing me, and i don't have access to a cd rom right now, so here's my question:.

how many "hits" does "144000" get in the magazines over the past 5 years or so?.

my prediction is that mention of "the 144000" has been decreasing steadily over the past few years, as they move towards phasing out a literal interpretation of this scripture.. thanks,.

breakfast of champions

My curiosity is killing me, and I don't have access to a CD Rom right now, so here's my question:

How many "hits" does "144000" get in the magazines over the past 5 years or so?

My prediction is that mention of "the 144000" has been decreasing steadily over the past few years, as they move towards phasing out a literal interpretation of this scripture.

Thanks,

BOC

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AGM 5 OCTOBER 2013 (UNOFFICIAL RUMORS)

by WatchTower87 in

- 23 day to go .. annual meeting unofficial rumors.

- new bible.

- new nwt (revision).

breakfast of champions

The implication was that it will be bigger than last year's FADS=GB

Heard this, too.

Again, I'm putting my chips on the literal 144k going bye-bye.